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RE: ADSL - charging structures

From: Marcus Steeneken <SteenekenM_at_caa.govt.nz>
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:06:29 +1200
Message-ID: <71C4A4E74EB8D1118A480000F806416A5CF37A@exchange.caa.govt.nz>

I have here from some one at Saturn that their base service will be:-

2Mb Saturn Cable modem
Static IP
500Mb traffic included
$0.30c / meg International Traffic
for
$89.95 / month

starting this month, you may have seen the adds no TV mentioning fast
Internet service!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Jarvie [mailto:hjarvie@bigfoot.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 1999 13:28
> To: adsl@freebsddiary.cx
> Subject: Re: ADSL - charging structures
>
>
>
> my 2cents on charging (from a longtime cynic)
>
> They made the figure up..... then used whatever figures
> they could find
> that would justify their postion. SOP Standard Office Politics
>
> Telecom have been grossly overcharging commercial data
> lines for years
> and knows it.
>
> ADSL threatens this.... and therefore its cost must be high.
>
> To much of Telecoms profit and internal business structures are
> dependant on maintaining the cost structure for existing/old
> technologies.
> There are credibility and change control issues which have
> nothing to do
> with providing ADSL infrastructure.
>
> I don't believe the needs of residential customers are
> given much wieght
> when it comes to pricing decisions. Corporate politics is
> the name of the
> game... we are making money here.... "this is a business"
>
> The ATM backbone that someone mentioned existed before ADSL and
> should only generate a very small charge on ADSL provisioning
>
> In my opinion they don't really know what they are
> doing.... I don't mean
> technically.... I think that eventually any solution can be
> made to work at a
> technical level which is why I don't have much time for
> "technical limitation"
> as an argument for not providing a level of service. Who
> ever is running this
> appears to have little vision of what its all going to look
> like beyond "We are
> going to be in charge" My guess is most of "marketing dudes"
> that appear
> to be running this them probably have only rudimentry knowlege of the
> internet and have never been a power user of anything other than the
> wordprocessor they used to polish their CV. (Hmmm... OK....
> thats a bit
> harsh but you know what I mean). They may have some statistics based
> concept of how modem users behave thru their XTRA experiences
> but that
> aint giving them a clue as to want those users are going to
> want to do on a
> broadband network.
>
> Remember they were going to stream Video on Demand over this ADSL
>
> At 35 cents a megabyte?
>
> I wonder how many of us were XTRA customers before ADSL... not me
> and not many of you I'd guess?
>
> my fingers are cold
>
> :)
>
>
> Bring back the PO....
> (at least then we could push for a
> commission of inquiry :)
>
> any word on Saturn?
> ________________________________________
> Harold Jarvie
> Wellington
> New Zealand
> hjarvie@bigfoot.com
> http://bigfoot.com/~hjarvie
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