It has been mentioned that some have left the list, since this is not
something that is automatically announced to the list, can we have some
indication of who has, and perhaps we can draw our own conclusions as to why
(unless they gave reasons with their withdrawl.)

I don't really think this list can generate all it's benefits if we are
restricted from making, or guessing, assertions with respect to the motives,
which, in the real world are not always what they seem, or always altruistic.

But since a more upbeat tone is requested, let me comply by pointing out how
much better off we are than those with other suppliers, ie, in other
countries, but let's also note the similarity of the irritations:

"They also have an explicit NO SERVERS rule"
"an upstream cap at 120kbps ..."
"your IP address changes, typically, about once every few weeks, but if you
ever fancy serving any digital data, (http, ftp, or whatever) you dont want a
dynamically changing IP address!"

But you can read this stuff yourself at:

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/06/02/1329237&mode=thread

Mostly about provisioning DSL in the US, also has a link to the Bell Atlantic
debacle over PowerMacs, a dispute Bellsouth has seen fit to extend to Linux
(and probably *BSD Dan):

http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,37313,00.html?st.ne.fd.mdh.ni

The minor news from BT's trials, "These days BT are spending so much time
tweaking their firewall to prevent home owners setting up their own Web sites,
they've seemingly forgotten a firewall's original purpose: to protect its
users" and their come-uppence is coming from a familiar source, cable modem
operators.

http://www.ntk.net/index.cgi?back=archive99/now0507.txt&line=42#l

All of these stupid "annoy the customer" stands are being taken to limit the
volume consumed, and the number of PCs connected, whereas Telecom has no
incentive whatsoever to indulge in this kind of nonsense, as the more volume,
the more money, cool.

I think the un-capped/volume charging is the best model, but it is the charge
for the volume which is the issue at present.

Hamish.

--
"The adoption rate of open software is a lot like the adoption rate of
democracy.  It's not yet 100 percent, but it's compelling, it's rewarding, and
it's the best way to do it." - Michael Tiemann
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