First, my apologies to the other list members for my rambling and off-
topic reply.

Steven,

Further discussion on your points is terminated. I've had enough of this.
 Please don't reply to this message. The signal-to-noise ratio is off the
scale.

On 1 Jun 99, at 8:11, Steven Jones wrote:

> I have been getting some wierd crossovers the last 24 hours, netscape (i
> have flushed caches)and ie 3 brings up my site while explorer 4 brings up
> yours most odd, this may not have appeared before as web sites have not
> crossed IPs. It seems to have cleared now (monday evening) big bug?

What are the IP addresses you are using? This may be a DNS
propogation delay and not a matter of IP addresses being crossed.

> btw I dont totally agree with you not posting what i write to this group,

I have never not posted what you write.

> letting telecom know we are deeply unhappy with the service at present,
> maybe the message is not worded to your liking but at the end of the day

The key point being that your "wording" got up the noses of more than
one person. And I am certainly not easily offended.

> they are meant to offer a service which they are charging way to much for
> (IMO),

If you don't like the conditions imposed upon on this list, leave.
Preferably now.

> especially when this flaky, the only reason i am keeping it at

Get a grip. The service is excellent. The only problems you are having
is with respect to services. Your outgoing requests are fine. It's only
when you try to access your system from external systems that a
problem is encountered. This is no different to most other DHCP
situation. And yes, we all want static, I know.

> present is i hope some options may turn up shortly at more sane prices, my
> continuation on this 'trial' is constantly under review and is hovering on
> hand it back. Certainly if this is continuing to September at these prices
> its just about dead and soon.

Expressing unhappiness can be done without abuse and in polite terms.
As far as I know, it is just the workers who are subscribed to the list.
None of the "decision" makers are. And abusing people is hardly likely
to accomplish anything. Apart from isolation. If I need to explain this to
you further, please keep it off the list. Your behaviour has already led to
more than one person leaving the list.

Remeber: it *IS* a trial. And be expected to have probelms. We have
had a good run for the past 18 months. Very few problems. The
problems you are having are not unique to you.

> Mentioning prices, if our IPs are so screwed how can their databases /
> charging systen cope with billing us properly? If you now have my IP and
> say I have yours you maybe happy but i will not be!

Well, it's called accounting. They know which phone number is which
and which account that phone number is charged to. Which IP is
assigned to that phone number is easily tracked.

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