this message thread has gotten so absolutely boring that i am considering
having you all placed on a 'get a life' scheme... honestly, are we here for
technical assistance, or marketing trivia... if you guys can't find a
worthwhile passtime, let me suggest inflatable dolls ! - yes, i am fed up.
shane .. phone 021644922 if you want to validate your lack of existance to
me.
----- Original Message -----
From: keri Ring <techsol@ihug.co.nz>
To: <adsl@unixathome.org>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: clear/telecom deal
> Yes - sorry i left the . out - should have been 2.4 gig,
>
> just wondering why we pay so much more for data with dsl?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Juha Saarinen <juha@saarinen.org>
> To: Adsl@Unixathome. Org <>
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 11:20 PM
> Subject: RE: clear/telecom deal
>
>
> > 50,000 bits/s = 6,250 bytes/s is a good speed for 56K modems.
> >
> > That's = 375,000 B/s
> >
> > Or =~ 21.45MB/h
> >
> > Or =~5GB/month, based on 12 hours and 20 days. Bit optimistic to expect
> max
> > speed, however, so 2.5GB is probably more realistic.
> >
> > $5 per GB isn't bad though. On my Jetstream 1500 plan, 5GB would cost me
> > $921.60 in excess volume charges, if I went over my normal allocation at
> 7.5
> > cents a MB.
> >
> > -- Juha
> >
> > %-> -----Original Message-----
> > %-> From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org]On
> > %-> Behalf Of MX
> > %-> Sent: Thursday, 5 October 2000 10:58 p.m.
> > %-> To: ADSL Mailing List
> > %-> Subject: Re: clear/telecom deal
> > %->
> > %->
> > %-> think u made a wee calculation error .. 2.4 gig
> > %->
> > %->
> > %-> ----- Original Message -----
> > %-> From: "keri Ring" <techsol@ihug.co.nz>
> > %-> To: <adsl@unixathome.org>
> > %-> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 9:03 PM
> > %-> Subject: Re: clear/telecom deal
> > %->
> > %->
> > %-> > Does DSL data cost an isp more than modem based data?
> > %-> >
> > %-> > Cos essentially I could get a flat rate dial up connection and use
> > %-> >
> > %-> > approx 10meg per hour, * 12hrs per day, * 20 days per month
> > %-> (heavy usage
> > %-> > average)
> > %-> >
> > %-> > giving 24 gigs data for a measly $24.95,
> > %-> >
> > %-> > thats a data cost of 1.04c per megabyte. - even if you take
> > %-> 10% of this
> > %-> > usage it is only 10c per mb!
> > %-> >
> > %-> > Are these ISP's offering flate rate making large losses,
> > %-> > or are we simply paying what the market will stand for dsl? at 20c
> per
> > %-> meg.
> > %-> >
> > %-> > ----- Original Message -----
> > %-> > From: Nigel Roberts <nigel@snippy.paradise.net.nz>
> > %-> > To: Pete <speed@advcomm.co.nz>
> > %-> > Cc: <adsl@unixathome.org>
> > %-> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:29 PM
> > %-> > Subject: RE: clear/telecom deal
> > %-> >
> > %-> >
> > %-> > > Not true, Paradise.Net provides all national/international
> > %-> bandwidth for
> > %-> > it's
> > %-> > > ADSL users. This is easily demonstrated by a traceroute to any
> > %-> > well-connected
> > %-> > > site through a paradise ADSL connection.
> > %-> > >
> > %-> > > Oh, and Chello has very little to do with Paradise. :)
> > %-> > >
> > %-> > > Nigel
> > %-> > >
> > %-> > > Quoting Pete <speed@advcomm.co.nz>:
> > %-> > >
> > %-> > > > > %-> bandiwidth (from
> > %-> > > > > %-> what I gather). Telecom do (although it passes
> > %-> through the ISP
> > %-> > > > > %-> if they want it
> > %-> > > > > %-> to (for caching purposes etc).
> > %-> > > > >
> > %-> > > > > No, that's not how it works. Paradise e.g uses Telstra
> > %-> for parts of
> > %-> > > > their
> > %-> > > > > international connectivity.
> > %-> > > >
> > %-> > > > For dial-up users yes (and chello connected users etc),
> > %-> but I believe
> > %-> if
> > %-> > > > you are
> > %-> > > > a DSL ISP your DSL users get their bandwidth through
> > %-> Telecom (or that
> > %-> is
> > %-> > > > at
> > %-> > > > least an option to the ISP). Which is why Telecom charge you
for
> > %-> > > > bandwidth
> > %-> > > > useage.
> > %-> > > >
> > %-> > > > Rgds,
> > %-> > > > Pete
> > %-> > > >
> > %-> > > >
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