No, I believe Telecom went from ANSI T.1413 (I know, that's not what it's called) to ITU G.DMT or G.992.2, which is a recommendation for an international standard.

%-> -----Original Message-----
%-> From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org]On
%-> Behalf Of Sean Glasspool
%-> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2000 3:44 p.m.
%-> To: Jeremy Brooking; jonathan@mosen.org; Broadband List
%-> Subject: RE: Reliability
%->
%->
%-> Full rate ADSL hasn't even been ratified as an international
%-> standard yet.
%-> And telecoms ADSL is RADSL which is a non-standard form of ADSL.
%->
%->
%-> Sean Glasspool
%-> Account Manager
%-> mailto:s.glasspool@braemac.co.nz
%->
%-> -----Original Message-----
%-> From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org
%-> [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On
%-> Behalf Of Jeremy Brooking
%-> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2000 13:52
%-> To: jonathan@mosen.org; Broadband List
%-> Subject: RE: Reliability
%->
%-> Well my 'personal' feelings are...
%->
%-> Due to the lack of reliability (and yes i understand that
%-> telecom are trying
%-> to fix these issues) of ADSL being effectively as good as a
%-> BETA product..
%-> Consumers should be being charged a BETA rate.
%->
%-> How can Telecom expect the public to pay Top dollar when the
%-> service isnt
%-> Top rate?
%->
%->
%->
%->
%-> %> -----Original Message-----
%-> %> From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org]On
%-> %> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
%-> %> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2000 1:24 p.m.
%-> %> To: Broadband List
%-> %> Subject: RE: Reliability
%-> %>
%-> %>
%-> %> I just received the latest issue of Consumer Magazine. They want
%-> %> people to
%-> %> write to editor@consuemr.org and give them feedback on their Internet
%-> %> services. They specifically say they would like to hear from users of
%-> %> broadband services. I will certainly be writing to tell them
%-> that in the
%-> %> case of Jetstream, there are too many outages and it's
%-> over-priced simply
%-> %> because where I live, Telecom doesn't have Saturn to keep them
%-> %> honest. As a
%-> %> former Saturn customer when I lived in Wellington, I can say
%-> %> that Saturn has
%-> %> its problems. I waited a long time on many calls to the call
%-> centre. But
%-> %> their broadband was one hell of a lot more reliable than
%-> this. I can only
%-> %> recall 3 outages in a year of using Saturn cable with Paradise.
%-> %>
%-> %> Jonathan Mosen
%-> %> Via MSN Messenger or mailto:jonathan@mosen.org
%-> %> Work Phone: +64-6-348-8127
%-> %> Mobile: +64-21-4Mosen, +64-21-466-736
%-> %>
%-> %> -----Original Message-----
%-> %> From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org]On
%-> %> Behalf Of Neal Blackie
%-> %> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2000 13:07
%-> %> To: ADSL mailing list (E-mail)
%-> %> Subject: Reliability
%-> %>
%-> %>
%-> %> After yet another outage, I feel I must say my piece.
%-> %>
%-> %> I work in Christchurch for a company based in Belgium, looking
%-> %> after between
%-> %> 35 and 50 servers, depending on time of day. I am on call 24
%-> %> hours. If my
%-> %> ADSL connection is down I have to phone a workmate in Brussels
%-> %> and get him
%-> %> out of bed to do my work for me. My boss is getting annoyed and
%-> %> now my job
%-> %> is on the line.
%-> %>
%-> %> Yes I know that the ADSL service is "best effort" and not guaranteed.
%-> %> However I need about 256k of bandwidth, 24 hrs and he tells
%-> me that if he
%-> %> had to pay more money for a different type of connection, eg
%-> %> leased line, he
%-> %> will get someone else to do it. If anyone knows of another
%-> option at a
%-> %> similar cost to ADSL, I would like to hear about it.
%-> %>
%-> %> The reasons for the outages are not made clear to me. If they
%-> %> are genuine
%-> %> failures of key equipment (routers, servers etc) then I would
%-> %> like to know
%-> %> why there are not redundant systems. If it is human error,
%-> what are our
%-> %> assurances that it will not happen again?
%-> %>
%-> %> Neal Blackie.
%-> %>
%-> %>
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%-> %> This message is part of the NZ Broadband mailing list.
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%->
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