Yes, I am well aware of how most NZ traffic is routed, netgate and all.

The point is, that if your provider has a local point of presense (ie has a
fibre connection) then traffic from you to them _could_ be local. (ie send
your atm frames their way)

So if paradise has atm in wellington, then adsl customers in/near wellington
could be charged less for data to paradise as it could be sent straight to
paradise via a low number of exchange hops. In short, distance vector
pricing.

Ulterior motive: Most of my traffic only needs to go a very short distance
and in theory doesn't have to touch any city-city backbones at all, so maybe
I could be charged less :)

Maybe Telecom could set up a data pricing scheme based on their toll-call
model, ie divide the country up into areas and charge the data based on how
far you want to send it. I don't think the anonymous proxy thing would be a
large problem as someone has to pay for the international bandwidth at
somestage.

-Nem

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From: "Jeremy Elgin" <jamey@cafe.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [adsl] 512k DSL? Not right now, says Telecom.

> > Still, I agree that 128k doesn't really cut the mustard. I'd like to use
the
> > current jetstream, but with local/national/international pricing scheme.
>
> I can't see any ISP wanting to do this these days... this was the way
things were in the old days when you had data charges on a dialup. These
providers were typically reselling bandwidth they'd bought locally so this
pricing structure worked ok. These days most ISP's pay for a pipe up to
NetGate (or some other International gateway), as does the ISP down the
road, even though he's in the same town. This means 'local' traffic would go
up and down the country just to get across the street. If you had a
national/international split this is a moot point, but it still means all
traffic has to be logged and resolved back to a .nz domain to be charged at
the lower rate. I remember the headaches and complaints involved in this...
and although I agree the traffic rates are a little step, especially when
you're downloading something off a 56k luser I have to ask myself, "Why
aren't I using dialup for this?"... I don't really think many would want to
go back to this.
>
> I think we just need to move towards flatrate :)

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