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From: Aaron Martin <aaronm_at_firesecurity.co.nz>
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:01:06 +1300
Message-ID: <41A8438F3C8BD31194F800902773BB150C4C9D@server>

Alas no the jetstart is my home account, and it doesn't have a static ip.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Le Mouton [mailto:SouthofHeaven@mindless.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 20:44
To: adsl@unixathome.org
Subject: RE: Other ISPs permit servers

They allowing you to have static ips with jetstart? Apparently the
techonology doesn't support static ip's but for half a month (telecom put my
account over to jetstart early) i was on paradise.net with jetstart and a
static ip, this only happened because it was surposed to switch over at the
end of my billing cycle

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org]On
Behalf Of Chris Hellberg
Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2001 5:09 p.m.
To: aaronm@firesecurity.co.nz; david@rebirthing.co.nz
Cc: adsl@unixathome.org
Subject: RE: Other ISPs permit servers

>>> "Aaron Martin" <aaronm@firesecurity.co.nz> 02/28/01 04:42p.m. >>>
I have 8 jetstream and 1 jetstart connections with World-net, and I
have had
no problems at all with them over the last 14 months. Apart from the
fact
that they speak very little english! Email is the only way to deal
with
them, on the phone they are impossible!

Also their pricing is better than any other ISP, they give static ip's
free,
and they changed the reverse resolve on all my static ip's to reflect
the
FQDN that I have allocated each ip!

e.g. Our napier branch has FQDN of napier.firesecurity.co.nz , ip
210.55.228.219
The reverse lookup of that ip is napier.firesecurity.co.nz rather than
adsl-219.world-net.co.nz as it used to be. And all this is for free.

Paradise did the same with my static for nothing, although admittedly
it was
only for one ip address, but I doubt it would make too many odds how
many
ips you get changed.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: David McNab [mailto:david@rebirthing.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 16:19
To: adsl@unixathome.org
Subject: Other ISPs permit servers

> > Apparently, Xtra's rule against running a server only applies to
the
> > dial-up accounts. No mention of it in JetStream/JetStart accounts.

> http://www.xtrasite.co.nz/jetstart/terms.html

Oops - my apologies - I missed that completely on the Xtra site.
I stand corrected.

Anyway, I spoke to an Xtra Public Relations rep, Mary Parker,
who agreed to be quoted as saying that:

"Xtra offers JetStart as a 'consumer product'.
"Xtra views the running of internet servers (such as web, ftp etc)
as an inherently 'commercial activity', and not within the scope of a
'residential product' such as JetStart." Ms. Parker pointed out that
this
policy is not necessarily permanent.

(my interpretation of this is that Xtra sells server products eg web
hosting,
and perceives personal servers as 'competition').

Meanwhile, I've been combing through fine print of other ISPs
supporting
JetStart/JetStream.

>From what I can see, Inspire.net bans spam and any law-breaking
traffic, but
have no rule against servers.

Also, World-net have confirmed with me that they allow unlimited
traffic,
and have no problems with people running servers. They only oppose
"Abuse of
the service e.g. sending Spam, Hacking". Lastly, World-net are
$5/month
cheaper than Xtra.

It looks I'll be 'defecting' to World-Net.

Cheers
David

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