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Re: Re: HUGE WARNING ON JETSTREAM BILLING!

From: derelict_at_xtra.co.nz
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 2:06:18 +0000
Message-Id: <20010301020543.HVVL15770362.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@[192.168.2.9]>

You can't, not by Telecom. Like I said, logins have nothing to do with the billing plan. A login just points the direction to send the traffic to authenticate (ISP) and then receive data. Thus the @xtra.co.nz and @jetstreamgames.co.nz

Cheers
Rich

>
> From: Phil Cotching <philc@wave.co.nz>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:42:07 +1300
> To: adsl@unixathome.org
> Subject: Re: Re: HUGE WARNING ON JETSTREAM BILLING!
>
> Doesnt explain why Telecom happily carries the traffic if your "Telecom
> Usage Plan" is Jetstart, but you log in with a Jetstream login. It looks
> like you cant get charged any extra for it.
>
> PC.
>
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 01:16:26AM +0000, derelict@xtra.co.nz wrote:
> > Guys
> >
> > Jetstream/Jetstart are not charged via login. Infact, the logins are treated identically by ISPs. When you order jetstart, your phone number is added to a database that is updated daily at about 4am. When you login to any realm apart from the free realm (jetstreamgames.co.nz) then your port number (ala phone number) is checked against the list on that database. If it's there, then your connection is throttled accordingly. This makes no difference if you use a jetstream login, jetstart login, xtra or webinternet login. They are all the same. If you notice your connection going uncapped, it's because the ISP has screwed up.
> >
> > By using more than one login and trying to dodge charges under Jetstream, you'll just find yourself with a fat bill at the end of the month. Like I said above, data and billing plans are sorted by port number (ph number) and not ISP account.
> >
> > Questions?
> > Rich
> >
> > >
> > > From: Phil Cotching <philc@wave.co.nz>
> > > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:03:59 +1300
> > > To: adsl@unixathome.org
> > > Subject: Re: HUGE WARNING ON JETSTREAM BILLING!
> > >
> > > > I sympathise with the guy who first posted this. It is unfair, and what if
> > > > you logged on to a jetstart users line and modem with a jetstream password..
> > > > I bet they don't let the traffic go free...
> > >
> > > I think they must do. Try it, you'll see your traffic go up on the meter,
> > > but hey, your account type is still Jetstart. The million dollar question
> > > is: whos carrying the traffic? If I try it it looks like Telecom are
> > > carrying it (for free?). What a cockalorum.
> > >
> > > PC.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 01:36:12PM +1300, Iain wrote:
> > > > I sympathise with the guy who first posted this. It is unfair, and what if
> > > > you logged on to a jetstart users line and modem with a jetstream password..
> > > > I bet they don't let the traffic go free...
> > > >
> > > > This is just another situtation of the forever unending thing called the
> > > > Local Loop.
> > > >
> > > > There are alot of very annoyed people out there right now, and to be honest
> > > > Telstra are going to make a killing in this country. Not because they offer
> > > > a better service, faster service blah blah blah... but because people will
> > > > change for the hell of it. ie Linux.
> > > >
> > > > oh well.. sigh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 11:56:56AM +1300, G wrote:
> > > > > > >I've always thought it was fairly clear.
> > > > > > >What you pay telecom is based on what your phone number is.
> > > > > > >What you pay your ISP is based on what your login is.
> > > > > > >If you are on jetstream you pay telecom for volume. on jetstart
> > > > > > >you don't, some ISPs are charging for volume under various conditions.
> > > > > > >In some cases it is if you go over 10 Gb in a month, in others it is if
> > > > > > >you log in to them more than once. As far as I can tell Telecom does
> > > > > > >not care who your ISP is or what you login as.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This case is slightly different. It means that if you are a JetStream
> > > > 400
> > > > > > user and I come over to your house and log in with my JetStart userid
> > > > YOU
> > > > > > will get billed JetStream 400 usage, even though we're using my flat
> > > > rate
> > > > > > JetStart account.
> > > > > And to attempt to further clarify the point, we would be using your login
> > > > > to your ISP for the ISP charges, and my Jetstream Line. I am
> > > > > more than clear about that. Presuming the ISP authenticated us. The
> > > > > interesting part is if the ISP is billing for its bandwidth will you
> > > > > be charged as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the ISP is being chargted for the bandwidth on jetstart I hope that
> > > > > they get enough data to distinguish customer line types.
> > > > >
> > > > > --kit
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Greg
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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