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Re: HUGE WARNING ON JETSTREAM BILLING!

From: Steve Hoek <steve_at_serato.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 15:17:12 +1300
Message-ID: <B6C41878.53FC%steve@serato.com>

> Jetstart customer on Jetstream line = Jetstream rate

This statement directly contradicts Rob's experience. Vis:

> I have been using a jetstart account on my jetstream connection while a
> friend was waiting for his ADSL NT to arrive.
> This of course works, and I was getting a 16 K throttled connection, which I
> should. HOWEVER! I was billed all traffic to my Jetstream account.

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> From: "Wayne Kampjes" <Wayne.Kampjes@telecom.co.nz>
> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:44:18 +1300
> To: adsl@unixathome.org
> Subject: Re: HUGE WARNING ON JETSTREAM BILLING!
> 
> They would get the traffic free and the rate would be limited. The
> limitation is done based on port not user - when you get Jetstart it is
> the LINE that gets Jetstart not the user.
> Jetstream customer on Jetstart line = Jetstart rate.
> Jetstart customer on Jetstream line = Jetstream rate
> 
> Cheers
> Wayne
> 
>>>> "Phil Cotching" <philc@wave.co.nz> 1/03/01 14:03:59 >>>
>> I sympathise with the guy who first posted this. It is unfair, and
> what if
>> you logged on to a jetstart users line and modem with a jetstream
> password..
>> I bet they don't let the traffic go free...
> 
> I think they must do. Try it, you'll see your traffic go up on the
> meter,
> but hey, your account type is still Jetstart. The million dollar
> question
> is: whos carrying the traffic? If I try it it looks like Telecom are
> carrying it (for free?). What a cockalorum.
> 
> PC.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 01:36:12PM +1300, Iain wrote:
>> I sympathise with the guy who first posted this. It is unfair, and
> what if
>> you logged on to a jetstart users line and modem with a jetstream
> password..
>> I bet they don't let the traffic go free...
>> 
>> This is just another situtation of the forever unending thing called
> the
>> Local Loop.
>> 
>> There are alot of very annoyed people out there right now, and to be
> honest
>> Telstra are going to make a killing in this country. Not because they
> offer
>> a better service, faster service blah blah blah... but because people
> will
>> change for the hell of it.  ie Linux.
>> 
>> oh well.. sigh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 11:56:56AM +1300, G wrote:
>>>>> I've always thought it was fairly clear.
>>>>> What you pay telecom is based on what your phone number is.
>>>>> What you pay your ISP is based on what your login is.
>>>>> If you are on jetstream you pay telecom for volume. on jetstart
>>>>> you don't, some ISPs are charging for volume under various
> conditions.
>>>>> In some cases it is if you go over 10 Gb in a month, in others
> it is if
>>>>> you log in to them more than once. As far as I can tell Telecom
> does
>>>>> not care who your ISP is or what you login as.
>>>> 
>>>> This case is slightly different. It means that if you are a
> JetStream
>> 400
>>>> user and I come over to your house and log in with my JetStart
> userid
>> YOU
>>>> will get billed JetStream 400 usage, even though we're using my
> flat
>> rate
>>>> JetStart account.
>>> And to attempt to further clarify the point,  we would be using
> your login
>>> to your ISP for the ISP charges, and my Jetstream Line.  I am
>>> more than clear about that.  Presuming the ISP authenticated us.
> The
>>> interesting part is if the ISP is billing for its bandwidth will
> you
>>> be charged as well.
>>> 
>>> If the ISP is being chargted for the bandwidth on jetstart I hope
> that
>>> they get enough data to distinguish customer line types.
>>> 
>>> --kit
>>>> 
>>>> /Greg
>>>> 
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