At 10:17 2/03/2001, Steve Phillips wrote:
[ snip ]

>> Is that an official claim that Clear are lying (or at least
>>exaggerating), then, or is this just inter-company sniping?
>
>lets see now..
>
>telecom charge you around $0.35 / meg of data.
>
>they transport this across their ATM cloud to a CAR that is outdated
>equipment and into the ISP's network.
>
>they then charge the ISP again for transporting this data out of the ISP's
>network and onto the rest of the big bad net.
>
>for this the ISP gets around $0.08 per meg, oh, but they also provide you
>with a pop account, news services, an outgoing SMTP service which due to
>the lack of cloofull DSL users constantly gets hammered with spam from DSL
>customers running open relays (sorry, pet peeve at the moment :) ) - and
>authentication services, now - to my mind this isnt exactly a *fair* way
>to run things.. and yes.. I guess it is easier to make a profit and blame
>someone else but really - who is doing all the work here ? and who is
>wearing the brunt of the cost ?
>
>Personally, i think telecom should take that ARC Welder and shove it..
>well.. yeah ok..

oh, i forgot to add - it gets better, I don't know how many accountants are
out there, but around a month ago we were approached by our telecom account
manager, that claimed that due to bandwidth becoming cheaper they were
dropping the rebate given to ISP's for customer traffic down to a wopping
$0.00 per meg to carry customer traffic.

Now, when an international 64k line is costing around the $500 (ish) mark
(if you buy in bulk) and the ISP has overheads with such things as fixing
customer problems and the like (helpdesk staffing costs - time taken to
diagnose faults et al) and they get for the DSL account around $20 a
month.. hmm, can someone else do the math because I don't know how this can
work out but I assume that it must be a viable service to carry because
well.. we still offer it as a product right.. ?

one thing i find incredibly funny/ironic however is that while telecom are
claiming that "bandwidth has come down in price so we are going to drop
what we are paying you" they still havent changed the price to the end
customer - can we say "pot kettle black" ?

--
Steve.
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