Do you think the >7 gigs rule-of-thumb would have to be higher if telecom
released
a 256k or higher jetstart?

Would the extra price the ISP would charge for a faster account give the
user the right to a
higher limit?

-----Original Message-----
From: List Server Account [mailto:lists@bagel.gen.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:06 PM
To: Michael Beattie; adsl@unixathome.org
Subject: Re: Faster Jetstart

THE E-MAIL BELOW ARE MY OPINIONS ONLY. THEY DO NOT CONSTITUTE OFFICIAL
WEB INTERNET POLICY.

I would expect > 7 gigs International to be abuse, although thats not
concrete. From my records there appear to be 2 main types of users -
Guys that use it > 10 gigs per month, and guys that use it < 1 gig per
month. The later are good business, the former are bad. There are
suprisingly few people that fall in the middle.

BTW, I am talking about International data. I don't care about national
data, except Telecom make it extremely difficult to manage by not allowing
ISP's to assign statics to clients. Similarly we are hindered by only
receiving minimal information about login sessions.

While I am in control, we will always give clients 1 months notice if they
are using to much traffic, and if they cut their usage back within that
period, then there won't be any problems.

There are also currently more subtle ways of managing high volume users
(without capping them), however these are not a long term solution.

Cheers,
David Gottschalk
Web InterNet Ltd

On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Michael Beattie wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 02:23:00PM +1200, Sam Fickling wrote:
> > True. I really have no idea what ISPs would charge, however I was under
the
> > impression that the data charges were paid to Telecom and the ISP
charges
> > were just a markup and administration fees etc...
>
> [snippage of 50-fucking-thousand lines of quoting.]
>
> Um, its the ISP's bandwidth that Jetstart users are using...
>
> the above may be true for Jetstream... but definitely not Jetstart. I can
> understand Web Internet not liking 24/7 suckage. A little more leeway
would
> be nice. David, what circumstances cause you to mail users about finding
> another ISP? > 8GB two months in a row, up to about 15GB? (if > 15,
now?)
>
> pure guessing, but it would be nice to know how you decide, so we/I can
> gauge usage.
>
> Mike.
> --
>
> Michael Beattie (mike@ethernal.org)
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> The best things in life are politically incorrect.
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> Debian GNU/Linux.... Ooohh You are missing out!
>
>
> This message is part of the NZ ADSL mailing list.
> see http://unixathome.org/adsl/ for archives, FAQ,
> and various documents.
> To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@unixathome.org
> with "unsubscribe adsl" in the body of the message
>

This message is part of the NZ ADSL mailing list.
see http://unixathome.org/adsl/ for archives, FAQ,
and various documents.
To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@unixathome.org
with "unsubscribe adsl" in the body of the message

This message is part of the NZ ADSL mailing list.
see http://unixathome.org/adsl/ for archives, FAQ,
and various documents.
To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@unixathome.org
with "unsubscribe adsl" in the body of the message
Received on Wed Aug 8 10:39:01 2001