At 20:35 14/04/2002 +1200, Zsolt Brandt wrote:

> >>RE: Nokia M1122 resetting (completely) - Update - succeeded
>Great to whomever succeeded!
>
>Hey Steve, werent you ever a newbie? Have you always known how to get
>the most of every resource that ever was presented to you? I would dare
>say the large majority of ADSL users in NZ are NEW to it if not new to
>the "net" and as such if they stumble across this site then maybe also
>they ARENT the best at getting the info they want. Hunting through
>archives is certainly a relatively daunting task, the longer the
>archives, the worse usually. So naturally I am sure most people find it
>simpler, and in their minds no doubt more direct for them to just ASK.
>Short sarcastic [snippy] remarks only makes lists unfriendly and
>uncomfortable places to be, I have seen it before so give us a break eh
>mate, and think back when you werent so clued up.

being "new" is not an excuse for stupidity.

keep in mind three things

a) there is potentially a reason why Telecom do not want *THEIR* equipment
being tampered with and admin passwords being changed
b) if the password is needed and the person is at a sufficient technical
level to make use of the password they *will* know how to get it
c) Telecom are on this mailing list and last time this password was posted
the entire DSL project was almost shut down - would YOU like to be the one
explaining to the newspapaers and the rest of the country why we just took
a step backward in technology ?

Posting the password here so every tom dick and harry that believes
themselves to be technically savvy is simply asking for trouble

Niel contributes a lot to this list, and i believe he is a good bloke [tm]
but people need to think of the ramifications of what they post BEFORE they
post it, and believe me, my response was rather mild compared to some of my
other reactions to things people do on here :-)

Also, while you are at it, please trim your To: lines in the email - I am
actually on this list as well you know.. (yes, i CC'd to niel in the
original response for a specific reason, so no, "pot, kettle, black" does
not apply)

-- 
Steve.
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