(Sorry about that blank email Cheryl)

I think everybody is getting confused because this DSE router is new, and
possibly unlike previous routers and modems.
(Warning: I might not know what I'm talking about!)

This box has BOTH a 4 port ethernet switch AND a USB port.

The documentation (as far as I can tell) says that the router features
(NAT/bridging/DHCP/whatever) are available while using USB to connect.
I'm not sure how this works, but possibly it spoofs TCP/IP over the USB
link.

The Dick Smith web site says:
"The DSE ADSL Router is provides an "always-on" high speed ADSL connection
to the telephone line. It supports both USB and Ethernet PC connection and
includes a 4 port 10/100Mbps Duplex Switch. It is ideal for high speed
Internet access for small home networks. It's advanced bridging and firewall
features also make it suitable for business and corporate networks."

Cheryl, I didn't catch which version of Windows you have. What is displayed
if you enter the following command at the Command Prompt:
ipconfig

Do you have an IP address of 192.168.1.X or something else?

Can you ping the router at 192.168.1.2 (using ping command)?

As I understand it, with a "usual" USB connected modem, you CANNOT ping the
modem, it does not have a separate IP address (from the PC), and you can't
use your web broswer to configure it (I could be talking crap here,
apologies if I am!)
But I suspect that the DSE router is NOT a "usual" USB modem.

Once the list accepts that you have USB *AND* access to router, they might
then be better able to answer your question about Zone Alarm.

Here's my take on it:
Download the manual at
http://www.dse.co.nz/isroot/dse/TechData/XH7916_Manual.PDF and look at page
51.
It says:

"Please Note: This router features a built-in web server that allows remote
management via the Internet.
For your security, this feature is disabled by default.
We strongly recommend that if you want to enable this feature,
change the default passwords!
Failure to change the default passwords could lead to unauthorised
access to your router, network or computer."

With that feature turned off by default, you should be safe from outside
attacks to your router setup.

Inside attacks. The router will be considered by Zone Alarm to be part of
your internal LAN. As such I would think Zone Alarm would *NOT* block
"bad/trojan" programs from changing the router configuration unless you
specifically locked it down.

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Foster" <blakjak@blakjak.net>
To: "Cheryl" <cheryl@kaiapoi.co.nz>; <adsl@lists.unixathome.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: DSE ADSL Router

> The terms tend to get interchanged so you need to be clear exactly what
> youre dealing with.
>
> Essentially ADSL devices divide into three types and two categories.
>
>
> 1a) Internal. Known as a Modem. Controlled via Software.
> 1b) External (USB Interface). Known as a Modem. Controlled via Software.
>
> 2a) External (USB Interface.) Same as 1b.
> 2b) External (Ethernet Interface.). Known as a Router. Controlled via a
> telnet/console commandline, or a web interface.
>
> If it uses ethernet Its a router, not a modem. Your PC addresses it as a
> device on a network, not as a piece of hardware directly attatched to it
as
> a modem would be.
>
> That help ya? :)
>
>
>
>
> At 17:24 30/11/2002, you wrote:
> >I am running a DSE ADSL Router XH7916 EXT UTP + USB
> >Sorry I am not sure what the differance is between a ADSL modem and a
> >router, could you explain please?
> >Cheryl
> >
> >At 09:34 30/11/2002 +1300, Nathan Legg wrote:
> >>To summarize:
> >>You have purchased an external modem from DSE that connects using the
USB
> >>ports.
> >>You got this replaced, and you call it a Router. You want to know if
> >>Zonealarm will protect your router when you are using default passwords.
> >>
> >>Zonealarm runs inside your computer, it doesn't run between the internet
and
> >>your router.
> >>If you had an internal ADSL modem then yes, Zonealarm would protect you.
> >>
> >>You need to tell us what you are using. Perhaps your router has an
option
> >>to disable remote configuration, if you don't want to risk changing the
> >>password again.
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Cheryl" <cheryl@kaiapoi.co.nz>
> >>To: <adsl@lists.unixathome.org>
> >>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:02 PM
> >>Subject: Re: DSE ADSL Router
> >>
> >>
> >> > Just a follow up report on my adsl experience to date.
> >> > Got my modem, arranged for installation on Thursday morning and told
it
> >> > would be done at the exchange by Thurs noon. Rung up at 8.45am and
told it
> >> > was completed.
> >> > Went to install the modem found 2 of my USB ports don't work,
installation
> >> > went great until I decided to change the default passwords which the
> >>manual
> >> > highly recommended. Somehow something went wrong and my new user name
and
> >> > password would not work or the default one. Went back to DSE today as
the
> >> > router was less than 7 days old they replaced it as to reset the
defaults
> >> > needs to be done in the factory. Came home set every thing up and it
works
> >> > fine although at present I am only using it with one PC. Seem to be
d/ling
> >> > with gozilla at 14.5 to 16k/s which is around 3x what I was with dial
up.
> >> > Question As I am running Zone Alarm is it necessary to change the
> >>passwords
> >> > on the Router?
> >> > Cheryl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 13:58 26/11/2002 +1300, you wrote:
> >> > >I think there'll be a few of us here interested in your results. :)
> >> > >
> >> > >I certainly will be.
> >> > >
> >> > >At 13:48 26/11/2002 +1300, you wrote:
> >> > >>Thanks everyone for your comments, I am going to give the DSE one
$298 a
> >> > >>go hopefully it will provide all I need at a very good price.
> >> > >>Cheryl
> >> > >>
> >> > >>At 13:12 23/11/2002 +1300, Gavin Q wrote:
> >> > >>>I think theyre looking at the DSE branded router that has just com
e
> >>into the
> >> > >>>country (3 months late).
> >> > >>>$298 for DSL router with 4 port 10/100 switch
> >> > >>>If you want a basic router for DSL then i dont think you can go
wrong
> >>with
> >> > >>>it.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>I dont have a clue what its like for NAT etc tho if needed
somehting
> >>that
> >> > >>>could handle it.....
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Guess Ill find out soon tho as my friend and his flatmate are
going to
> >> > >>>purchase one.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>>From: "Matthew Harrison" <fishyman@fishyman.co.nz>
> >> > >>>To: <adsl@lists.unixathome.org>; "Cheryl" <cheryl@kaiapoi.co.nz>
> >> > >>>Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:40 PM
> >> > >>>Subject: Re: DSE ADSL Router
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > I have just brought a D-Link DSL-500 router, it seems to be
very
> >>simple
> >> > >>>for
> >> > >>> > any user, most of it is preconfigured, take a look at the
> >>screenshots i
> >> > >>> > made:
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > http://www.fishyman.co.nz/screenshots/dlink/dsl-500/
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > this router is also available from DSE, or if your looking at
> >>getting
> >> > >>> more
> >> > >>> > computer, you might want to try toe DSL-505, which has built in
> >>switch.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > regards
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > matt
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>> > From: "Cheryl" <cheryl@kaiapoi.co.nz>
> >> > >>> > To: <adsl@lists.unixathome.org>
> >> > >>> > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:09 PM
> >> > >>> > Subject: DSE ADSL Router
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > > Hello
> >> > >>> > > I am looking at purchasing the above modem from Dick Smiths
page
> >>10 of
> >> > >>> > > their latest catalogue and as I am new to ADSL modems would
> >>appreciate
> >> > >>> > > opinions on this or is there a better modem I should look at?
> >> > >>>
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