Hi,

Cheryl, just to make sure, if you go to http://192.168.1.2 with your web
browser, you get the DSE router config pages, right?

My questions about ipconfig and ping (and the http one above) were only to
test/prove that you had a router. Your answers won't affect the solution to
your security / Zone Alarm question.

Your answers however might cause some discussion about the DSE router in
general...

Ross, when I first read Cheryl's ipconfig output, I was confused, but this
morning it dawned on me how it might work. Can you confirm or deny the
following:

When using both the USB port and the Ethernet switch, the single PC on the
USB is on it's own subnet, 198.168.1.0/24, (that' one-nine-EIGHT) with the
router as gateway.
The PC's on the Ethernet ports are on subnet 192.168.1.0/24 (that's
one-nine-TWO) (by default, configurable) with the router as gateway.
The router routes THREE ways, between the USB subnet, the Ethernet subnet
and the outside world.
Is this correct?

Thanks,
Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Hamblin" <ross.hamblin@dse.co.nz>
To: "'Cheryl'" <cheryl@kaiapoi.co.nz>; "Mark Cranness"
<mark.cranness@paradise.net.nz>; <adsl@lists.unixathome.org>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: DSE ADSL Router

> Hi,
>
> XH7916 allows access from both USB AND Ethernet ports concurrently, USB
port
> is a USB to Ethernet type port.
>
> Ross.
>
> Ross Hamblin
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cheryl [mailto:cheryl@kaiapoi.co.nz]
> Sent: Sunday, 1 December 2002 11:01
> To: Mark Cranness; adsl@lists.unixathome.org
> Subject: Re: DSE ADSL Router
>
>
> At 23:49 30/11/2002 +1300, Mark Cranness wrote:
> >(Sorry about that blank email Cheryl)
> >
> >I think everybody is getting confused because this DSE router is new, and
> >possibly unlike previous routers and modems.
> >(Warning: I might not know what I'm talking about!)
> >
> >This box has BOTH a 4 port ethernet switch AND a USB port.
> >
> >The documentation (as far as I can tell) says that the router features
> >(NAT/bridging/DHCP/whatever) are available while using USB to connect.
> >I'm not sure how this works, but possibly it spoofs TCP/IP over the USB
> >link.
> >
> >The Dick Smith web site says:
> >"The DSE ADSL Router is provides an "always-on" high speed ADSL
connection
> >to the telephone line. It supports both USB and Ethernet PC connection
and
> >includes a 4 port 10/100Mbps Duplex Switch. It is ideal for high speed
> >Internet access for small home networks. It's advanced bridging and
> firewall
> >features also make it suitable for business and corporate networks."
> >
> >Cheryl, I didn't catch which version of Windows you have. What is
> displayed
> >if you enter the following command at the Command Prompt:
> >ipconfig
> >
> >Do you have an IP address of 192.168.1.X or something else?
> >
> >Can you ping the router at 192.168.1.2 (using ping command)?
> >
> >As I understand it, with a "usual" USB connected modem, you CANNOT ping
the
> >modem, it does not have a separate IP address (from the PC), and you
can't
> >use your web broswer to configure it (I could be talking crap here,
> >apologies if I am!)
> >But I suspect that the DSE router is NOT a "usual" USB modem.
> >
> >Once the list accepts that you have USB *AND* access to router, they
might
> >then be better able to answer your question about Zone Alarm.
> >
> >Here's my take on it:
> >Download the manual at
> >http://www.dse.co.nz/isroot/dse/TechData/XH7916_Manual.PDF and look at
page
> >51.
> >It says:
> >
> >"Please Note: This router features a built-in web server that allows
remote
> >management via the Internet.
> >For your security, this feature is disabled by default.
> >We strongly recommend that if you want to enable this feature,
> >change the default passwords!
> >Failure to change the default passwords could lead to unauthorised
> >access to your router, network or computer."
> >
> >With that feature turned off by default, you should be safe from outside
> >attacks to your router setup.
> >
> >Inside attacks. The router will be considered by Zone Alarm to be part
of
> >your internal LAN. As such I would think Zone Alarm would *NOT* block
> >"bad/trojan" programs from changing the router configuration unless you
> >specifically locked it down.
> >
> >Mark
> snip.....snip
> Thanks for replying Mark
> I am running Win98SE
> when I enter ipconfig this is what I get
> 0 Ethernet adapter
> I P Address 0.0.0.0
> Subnet Mask 0.0.0.0
> Default Gateway Blank
> 1 Ethernet adapter
> I P Address 198.168.1. 2
> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway 192.168.1.2
>
> Yes I can ping 192.168.1.2
> Cheryl
>
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