Its all quite simple, but right about now its Friday evening so Im off to
the pub.

I'll explain it in full when I get back if someone hasn't already.... Unless
Ive had a few too many beers :)

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On Behalf
Of Chrissy
Sent: Friday, 17 October 2003 5:20 p.m.
To: ADSL
Subject: Re: ADSL, who pays?

It would make sense that if the "thing that measures how fast data goes down
the line", which I understand is a software solution, is not working then
the "thing that measures how much data goes down the line",which IS a
software solution, could have failed also.

.. but I would not bet one it if it is coming out of my pocket.

Last time I checked - and I don't think it has changed - a line is either
capped or not capped at time of instillation and what data goes down the
line is charged to that line.

I have asked this before an never got an answer but your question hints at
it too.

If I use my user_name.xadsl@xtra.co.nz login on someone else's ADSL line
then that person pays for the data. If I use this on your line then I
connect to Xtra but your connection is with Orcon. If you go over your limit
then Orcon charge you but how do they know what I used when I was connected?
Does the ISP connected to tell Telecom the data volumes the Telecom tells
the ISP who the subscriber uses? Does Telecom tell the ISP who the
subscriber uses how much data goes down the line? But Telecom only know it
is data, not national or international.

Unless someone who KNOWS what happens to data charges
can answer the only way to find out would be to have a couple of people with
different ISPs and totally different connection plans swap logins for a
month and see what gets charged and
to whom. Could be an expensive way to find out.

Chrissy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fickling, Sam (Sam Fickling)" <sam.fickling@hp.com>
To: "ADSL-Chat (E-mail)" <adsl-chat@lists.unixathome.org>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: ADSL, who pays?

> I have had this happen to me once, and I noticed that a side effect
> was that my traffic metering was also screwed all to hell,
basically it didn't measure ANY traffic going down my line, so that was an
added bonus! :) Not sure if this is the case with you tho...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Mill [mailto:maildave@inspire.net.nz]
> Sent: Friday, 17 October 2003 10:14 AM
> To: adsl@lists.unixathome.org
> Subject: RE: ADSL, who pays?
>
>
> It is completely up to Orcon.
>
> However, there is a guaranteed International cap on your service, and
> no guarantee that your service will stay limited at 128 kbit. So its
> your job to make sure you stay under your cap. If you exceed your cap,
> then theoretically you pay.
>
> Also, from your example, if you had tucows.com if your queue, then of
> course eventually you would have downloaded all of tucows anyway (even
> on a capped service), which would have meant moving about 1.6 gig a
> day until it was done. Which would of course put you over your cap.
>
> Of course, only Orcon can answer this question. And in your
> hypothetical question, why the hell don't your just download from
> http://tucows.inspire.net.nz (national b/w) :)
>
> Plus, I remind you, this is not technical in nature, so feel free to
> move across to adsl-chat if this thread continues for a while.
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On
> Behalf Of trucido
> Sent: Friday, 17 October 2003 8:42 a.m.
> To: adsl@lists.unixathome.org
> Subject: ADSL, who pays?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> If I am on Jetstart through Orcon. And my connection becomes uncapped.
> And I download tucows.com, files and all. Who is responsible for the
> bill?
>
> Hypothetically, of course.
>
> T.
>
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