Wayne Kampjes explained how this works when JetStart first came out if you
search the archives. (sometime around end of 2000/beginning of 2001)

The Telecom portion of your bill is port based and linked to your line, the
ISP portion of your bill is different depending on the ISP and not at all
related to any rate limiting that Telecom have applied to your line.

Search the archives and you will find much discussion on this as it has
confused a lot of people for a long time

Note: there is a difference between "measuring" the data that "goes down
the line" and "rating" the data that goes down the line - one can fail and
the other quite merrily continue, even more-so in the case of jetstart (or
whatever its called these days) as the organisational units that preform
each task are quite different. (one is done via telecom, the other done via
the ISP).

-- 
Steve.
At 05:19 p.m. 17/10/2003, Chrissy wrote:
>It would make sense that if the "thing that measures how fast data
>goes down the line", which I understand is a software solution, is
>not working then the "thing that measures how much data goes
>down the line",which IS a software solution, could have failed
>also.
>
>.. but I would not bet one it if it is coming out of my pocket.
>
>Last time I checked - and I don't think it has changed - a line
>is either capped or not capped at time of instillation and what
>data goes down the line is charged to that line.
>
>I have asked this before an never got an answer but your question
>hints at it too.
>
>If I use my user_name.xadsl@xtra.co.nz login on someone else's
>ADSL line then that person pays for the data.  If I use this on
>your line then I connect to Xtra but your connection is with Orcon.
>If you go over your limit then Orcon charge you but how do they
>know what I used when I was connected?  Does the ISP connected
>to tell Telecom the data volumes the Telecom tells the ISP who the
>subscriber uses?  Does Telecom tell the ISP who the subscriber
>uses how much data goes down the line?  But Telecom only know
>it is data, not national or international.
>
>Unless someone who KNOWS what happens to data charges
>can answer the only way to find out would be to have a couple
>of people with different ISPs and totally different connection
>plans swap logins for a month and see what gets charged and
>to whom.   Could be an expensive way to find out.
>
>
>Chrissy.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fickling, Sam (Sam Fickling)" <sam.fickling@hp.com>
>To: "ADSL-Chat (E-mail)" <adsl-chat@lists.unixathome.org>
>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:32 AM
>Subject: RE: ADSL, who pays?
>
>
> > I have had this happen to me once, and I noticed that a side effect was 
> that my traffic metering was also screwed all to hell,
>basically it didn't measure ANY traffic going down my line, so that was an 
>added bonus! :)  Not sure if this is the case with you
>tho...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Mill [mailto:maildave@inspire.net.nz]
> > Sent: Friday, 17 October 2003 10:14 AM
> > To: adsl@lists.unixathome.org
> > Subject: RE: ADSL, who pays?
> >
> >
> > It is completely up to Orcon.
> >
> > However, there is a guaranteed International cap on your service, and no
> > guarantee that your service will stay limited at 128 kbit. So its your job
> > to make sure you stay under your cap. If you exceed your cap, then
> > theoretically you pay.
> >
> > Also, from your example, if you had tucows.com if your queue, then of 
> course
> > eventually you would have downloaded all of tucows anyway (even on a capped
> > service), which would have meant moving about 1.6 gig a day until it was
> > done. Which would of course put you over your cap.
> >
> > Of course, only Orcon can answer this question. And in your hypothetical
> > question, why the hell don't your just download from
> > http://tucows.inspire.net.nz (national b/w) :)
> >
> > Plus, I remind you, this is not technical in nature, so feel free to move
> > across to adsl-chat if this thread continues for a while.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On 
> Behalf
> > Of trucido
> > Sent: Friday, 17 October 2003 8:42 a.m.
> > To: adsl@lists.unixathome.org
> > Subject: ADSL, who pays?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > If I am on Jetstart through Orcon. And my connection becomes uncapped. 
> And I
> > download tucows.com, files and all. Who is responsible for the bill?
> >
> > Hypothetically, of course.
> >
> > T.
> >
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