This is correct, this is why the ISP's must run a separate PVC to each
exchange, and pay different rates for those pvcs, depending on the distance
from the exchange, to their NNI.

This is all explained in the PDF's on the telecom wholesale site.

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On Behalf
Of Tom Parker
Sent: Sunday, 1 August 2004 1:46 a.m.
To: Craig Spiers
Subject: RE: Churn Fee (was) Re: JetStream

Yes, someone needs to change something, yes there should be a fee involved,
I
don't question that. But does it really cost $100 to make that change?

Perhaps you should have read my post, or are you implying that they do
indeed
have to dispatch someone to your exhange in order to switch you to a
different
ISP (which would make sense if it was fully unbundled, but it isn't)?

Craig Spiers <craig@concept.net.nz> wrote:

>Man, so typical of people on this list.

>I have seen this explained on this list in the past week. The layout of the
>network *is* changing, by which your line will be locked to the ISP you are
>with. If you wish to change, a technician needs to change your line to the
>isp you are changing to.

>Read the posts people!

>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On
Behalf
>Of Tom Parker
>Sent: Friday, 30 July 2004 7:55 p.m.
>To: Brian Gibbons
>Subject: Re: Churn Fee (was) Re: JetStream

>Brian Gibbons <brian@outersite.co.nz> wrote:

>>Think of Telecom Retail as a UBS provider and you will understand the
churn
>>fee. If you change UBS provider then Telecom wholesale must change your
>>"physical" DSL connection and they charge a fee for that.

>Hang on, this isn't a physical change, is it? $100 is more than the self
>install connection fee, where they have to send someone to the exchange to
>patch you into the dslam. Why would it cost so much to change a record in a
>database?

>The fee isn't because changing ISP is inherantly expensive for the ISP that
>you are leaving.

>--
>Tom Parker - tom@carrott.org
> - http://www.carrott.org

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