The document is on the telecom site, outlining the UBS product build
structure from both a telecom, and an isp point of view.

While I agree it probably isn't the best way to build it, having the ISP get
their own data to each exchange is what unbundling is all about, however
that throws the cost up :)

Having telecom do it, means we can get economy of scale by using a much
larger link to the dslam at the exchange, and sharing with other isps.

There are a few modifications that need to be made every time a user changes
ISP. Telecom will no longer be proxy-radius'ing requests from the user to
the isp, they will go direct to the isp. This means you cant just change
your login to change isp - obviously :)

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On Behalf
Of Tom Parker
Sent: Sunday, 1 August 2004 12:17 p.m.
To: Craig Spiers
Subject: RE: Churn Fee (was) Re: JetStream

You have got to be pulling my leg! Can you provide a link to the PDF saying
that someone has to be dispatched to the exchange to change your VIRTUAL
circuit?

We are SO not in the future yet if this is true.

Craig Spiers <craig@concept.net.nz> wrote:

>This is correct, this is why the ISP's must run a separate PVC to each
>exchange, and pay different rates for those pvcs, depending on the distance
>from the exchange, to their NNI.

>This is all explained in the PDF's on the telecom wholesale site.

>Cheers

>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On
Behalf
>Of Tom Parker
>Sent: Sunday, 1 August 2004 1:46 a.m.
>To: Craig Spiers
>Subject: RE: Churn Fee (was) Re: JetStream

>Yes, someone needs to change something, yes there should be a fee involved,
>I
>don't question that. But does it really cost $100 to make that change?

>Perhaps you should have read my post, or are you implying that they do
>indeed
>have to dispatch someone to your exhange in order to switch you to a
>different
>ISP (which would make sense if it was fully unbundled, but it isn't)?

--
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           - http://www.carrott.org
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