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RE: Modifications to UBS

From: leety_at_ihug.co.nz
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:26:05 +1200
Message-id: <411a9cfd.9f.6037.1067782836@ihug.co.nz>

> 2. Telecom finalize the UBS specification (note: I'm just
> reading this from the Orcon article mentioned, so you'll
> have to take their word, not mine) for ISPs. An ISP
> (Orcon) announces a plan, based on that specification that
> , oh, woops, blows Telecom's (err... Xtra's...) plans out
> of the water. Telecom suddenly realises that the
> competing ISP has managed to beat them using their
> (Telecom's) own wholesale service... So back-peddles,
> reneges on the finalised specification and changes it to
> take away the key selling points of the competing ISPs
> plans, thus attempting to render them the same as Telecom
> (err... Xtra's...) plans [doesn't this defeat the entire
> purpose of wholesale? If Telecom restricts what people
> can do, how are ISP's supposed to differentiate their
> plans?]
>
> More power to Orcon for taking it on the chin and
> honouring their plans, unlike Telecom.
>
> </super rant>

I had thought that Telecom had said something like this is
the final draft but we might change things if we think it's
necessary... But looking back, the article I read on the
Herald
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/businessstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=3580256&thesection=business&thesubsection=telecommunications&thesecondsubsection=general

actually says 'Telecom will now give the providers details
of the final offer. Butler said that while the offer was
more or less set in stone, there was some room for
negotiation. "If there are issues we've not thought about,
such as migration, then we're absolutely prepared to work it
through." '

If this is the same thing Telecom told ISPs I wonder who
exactly negoiated with Telecom for these changes? Or maybe
Telecom never though about people actually offering better &
cheaper products then them although I don't know who they've
worked it through with, def not Orcon it seems...

Interestingly, I still can't seem to find any info on what
Telecom plan to charge ISPs if their user's average is
higher then 10gb. Also, having reread the press release, it
appears ISPs may be able to offer static IPs, they just
can't advertise/promote it (although what exactly
constitutes promotion is anyones guess)

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