Also reading this article

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/NL/356B8A20E567C86DCC256EED00750BAB

Orcon managing director Seeby Woodhouse didn't respond to an inquiry from
Computerworld yesterday. However, he posted a press release on Orcon's
website overnight saying the provider will wear the cost of excess traffic
over 10GB a month (understood to be 5c/MB). Customers who signed up in
advance for Orcon's UBS plan on the premise that they would receive static
IP addresses will get these, Woodhouse promised.

Does this mean that Telescum have given up on the over 10G plan to reduce
the speed to 65K to charge now at 5c/Meg

At 10:26 AM 8/12/2004 +1200, you wrote:

> > 2. Telecom finalize the UBS specification (note: I'm just
> > reading this from the Orcon article mentioned, so you'll
> > have to take their word, not mine) for ISPs. An ISP
> > (Orcon) announces a plan, based on that specification that
> > , oh, woops, blows Telecom's (err... Xtra's...) plans out
> > of the water. Telecom suddenly realises that the
> > competing ISP has managed to beat them using their
> > (Telecom's) own wholesale service... So back-peddles,
> > reneges on the finalised specification and changes it to
> > take away the key selling points of the competing ISPs
> > plans, thus attempting to render them the same as Telecom
> > (err... Xtra's...) plans [doesn't this defeat the entire
> > purpose of wholesale? If Telecom restricts what people
> > can do, how are ISP's supposed to differentiate their
> > plans?]
> >
> > More power to Orcon for taking it on the chin and
> > honouring their plans, unlike Telecom.
> >
> > </super rant>
>
>I had thought that Telecom had said something like this is
>the final draft but we might change things if we think it's
>necessary... But looking back, the article I read on the
>Herald
>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/businessstorydisplay.cfm?storyID=3580256&thesection=business&thesubsection=telecommunications&thesecondsubsection=general
>
>actually says 'Telecom will now give the providers details
>of the final offer. Butler said that while the offer was
>more or less set in stone, there was some room for
>negotiation. "If there are issues we've not thought about,
>such as migration, then we're absolutely prepared to work it
>through." '
>
>If this is the same thing Telecom told ISPs I wonder who
>exactly negoiated with Telecom for these changes? Or maybe
>Telecom never though about people actually offering better &
>cheaper products then them although I don't know who they've
>worked it through with, def not Orcon it seems...
>
>Interestingly, I still can't seem to find any info on what
>Telecom plan to charge ISPs if their user's average is
>higher then 10gb. Also, having reread the press release, it
>appears ISPs may be able to offer static IPs, they just
>can't advertise/promote it (although what exactly
>constitutes promotion is anyones guess)
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