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Re: UBS Per Meg Charges

From: LEE Tet Yoon <leety_at_ihug.co.nz>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:38:32 +1200
Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040812233200.0424fec0@pop.ihug.co.nz>

I've received an email about this and realised I made a mistake in my post & it
wasn't as clear as it should have been...

What I was saying was there are two possibilites assuming the 5c/mb is correct.
One is 5c/mb average above the average. The other is 5c/user/mb above the
average. The first one isn't so bad although it'll be a big problem for ISPs with a
small userbase with high data usage. But as for the second one, I do not see any
way Telecom could justify it to anyone (including the CC & gov)

At 05:14 p.m. 12/08/2004, I wrote:
>Maybe they mean 5c/meg average over the average?
>
>E.g. if an ISP has 1000 customers who use a total of 10,000gb they pay nothing. If those same 1000 customers use a total of 11,000gb they pay $51.20 in total extra (because each customer is using 1gb on average more then the 'limit'). If this is indeed the case then perhaps it isn't so bad although small ISPs are likely to have big problems...

I.E. Here I'm saying if it's 5c/mb average above the average then it's not so bad...

>Surely this must be the case? I know Telecom are bad but I don't see any way Telecom can justify 5c/meg. Given that they allow an average of 10gb per

I.E. Here I'm saying I don't see any way Telecom can justify 5c/user/mb above the average...

>customer, and the ISPs pay Telecom something like $24.90/customer then an ISP should just claim they have more customers then they actually have and pay Telecom the extra, unless Telecom disallow this. Even if Telecom try to claim they would be making more money from the extra 'customer' if said 'customer' was a real 'customer' (this doesn't make sense but it's the only way Telecom can justify refusing to let ISPs pay for more customers then they actually have) and add say $100/'fake customer' that's still only $125/month for 10 gig not $512/month for 10 gig... Personally, I think the most Telecom can justify charging ISPs is one more customer for every 10 gig (total not average) and even that's a real stretch.
>
>Please realise that the situation is different from an end user/retail user wanting to pay for two accounts with 10gig. In that case, Telecom can at least claim the reason they cannot offer a customer 2 10gig accounts is because they price are set with the assumption that not everyone is going to use 10gig whereas if a customer wants two 10 gigs accounts, they're more likely to use them both.

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