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RE: Draft determination on TelstraClear's application for UBS out

From: Craig Humphrey <Craig.Humphrey.Work_at_paradise.net.nz>
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:37:49 +1200
Message-Id: <20050421213621.UFGE22382.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@craigh>

Personally I think it's a step in the right direction (similar to the Aussie
model?).
I can see a few issues though:
1. It's limited (at this stage) to TelstraClear (so we have duopoly instead
of monopoly).
2. While I don't fully understand the terminology for the pricing, they
seem to be setting the initial wholesale price, but don't provide guidelines
on future pricing. Presumably Telecom's costs go down over time, so the
wholesale price should follow. I could be wrong on this, too much
legal-speak.
3. It's all tied to 128Kbit/s upstream, which the computer world article
points out, isn't sufficient to support more than 4Mbit/s downstream.

I think the Australian model is based on Telstra (or the owner of the
particular exchange/DSLAM?) "selling"/"leasing" a port on the exchange
(which seems to include the last mile copper too) to the ISP, who then uses
it for what ever services the customer has purchased (ADSL/voice). Which
leaves bit rates completely open and up to the contract between customer and
ISP. I have no idea how they handle the data between the exchange and the
ISP, presumably that's a separate wholesale agreement, and also regulated to
be "fair".

Just my (personal) 2c.

I wonder if Telecom will turn of the interleaving for it's existing
customers? It's killing me...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org
> [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On Behalf Of Paul Warner
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 8:35 AM
> To: adsl@lists.unixathome.org
> Subject: Re: Draft determination on TelstraClear's
> application for UBS out
>
> To me it still looks like the same old crap as before.
> TelstraClear resells Telecom dial tone in the guise of a
> TelstraClear dial tone. Now they sell the same old ADSL from
> Telecom with a different label of TelstraClear. No doubt the
> same limitations and same high price.
> The only thing that will for this sort of crap out is full
> LLU but I can't see this happening this side of the 22 Century.
>
> Quote
> "Similarly, Telecommunications Users Association of New
> Zealand head Ernie Newman is dancing a jig over the draft
> determination. Newman lauds it as a "breakthrough for
> residential and smaller business broadband users" and
> believes it will enable TelstraClear to enhance Telecom's
> services rather than just reselling them at a small margin."
>
> This guy is very easily pleazed it would appear..

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