I can't say for sure about Tuatapere & Taihape (two convenient small
towns beginning with "T") but I on a full speed connection here in
Temuka and have clients in Twizel, Oamarama & Lake Tekapo who are also
on a full speed connection. And just in case, Yes I do know that the
"full Speed" is simply the trained speed and no indication of the size
of the pipe between the Dslam & the core. The point is DSL is in these
small exchanges well away from a CBD or major tourist destination.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On
Behalf Of Gordon Milne
Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2005 11:39 a.m.
To: adsl@lists.unixathome.org
Subject: Re: Commerce commission / Telecom

Not quite sure if that is what I meant to say, but I can see what you
mean.

Not really sure if Telecom is up to that anyway

On 6/28/05, Matthew Bruce <alchemys@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> "providing equal access to all"
> So presumably any organisation taking advantage of the requested LL
> changes will be obliged to provide a service to Tuatapere, Twizel &
> Taihape not just Trentham, Tauranga & Takanini?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-adsl@unixathome.org [mailto:owner-adsl@unixathome.org] On
> Behalf Of Gordon Milne
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2005 10:32 a.m.
> To: adsl@lists.unixathome.org
> Subject: Re: Commerce commission / Telecom
>
>
> On 6/28/05, Juha Saarinen <juha@saarinen.org> wrote:
> > Paul Brislen wrote:
> > > Basically Webb said "I'm not suggesting we break up Telecom into
> > > wholesale and retail but look what they've done in the UK" which
> > > had
>
> > > various people in the crowd raising eyebrows and looking stunned.
> >
> > And, I think it's important to point out that most of the "clueless
> > media" didn't ever buy into the notion of pseudo-unbundling. Webb's
> > speech simply confirmed what we've been saying for a very long time
> > now. It's not working, it never will.
>
> Change is need. Now more that ever.
>
> Control of access to the LL needs to be taken off Telecom and passed
> to an organisation that is comitted to providing equal access to all,
> at a fair rate, and with the main criteria for LL changes to be the
> benefit that it provides those attached to the LL; the end customer
> whether it be commercial or private must be the one that benefits
> most.
>
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