On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 09:16 +1200, wrote:
> I would prefer if you keep it off list - but I dont mind if you post
> it - but just delete my name from it..... Sorry, just that I know ALOT
> of telecom people read this list and I'm not too sure I should be
> commenting.
It's okay your commenting as a private Citizen, and you are not
divulging any non publicly available information. Having said that I
have stripped your name from the e-mail and any information that would
identify which department you work in. ;-)
>
> I know what you say about is not being a suitable remedy - but it is
> the ISP's that have asked for this - not Telecom. Telecom makes more
> moeny off the JPP that UBS - it's the ISP's that wanted the layer 2
> control of services that basically mandated the removal of the
> program.
Interesting...
>
> Hope this helps,
> On 8/26/05, Joel Wiramu Pauling <aenertia@aenertia.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 08:47 +1200, wrote:
> > Hi Joel,
> >
> > I work at Telecom, And you are correct in assuming
> > that the JPP (Jetstream Partnering Program) is being removed
> at the
> > end of this month. You have 2 options;
> >
> > 1. Go to UBS with orcon (you will probably save money and
> keep your
> > static IP - although your upstream rate will be reduced to
> 128kbps)
> > 2. Go on a business plan with Xtra (not a good idea IMHO as
> it will
> > end up costing you a fortune)
> This is what I have presumed. As you say I appreciate that
> this is
> across the board, and so I am fairly certain that this is in
> Breach of
> the Consumer Guarantees Act. I don't know about you but the
> "remedies"
> being offered are unsatisfactory, I don't know any case where
> substitution of goods and services inferior to those being
> offered has
> been held up in court.
> > The only way for you to get around this is to go with
> another ISP that
> > still has a resale agreement such as TelstraClear - although
> once the
> > regulated UBS serice gets released, this will cease to
> exist, and I'm
> > not sure if they give you a static IP.
> Do you know when Telstra will stop reselling? I presume it
> will be
> within a month or so of this, as I am guessing they are party
> to the
> agreement across the board.
> >
> > If it is any consolation, I am in exactly the same boat as
> you, I am
> > an Orcon customer with a static IP using a re-saled line (ie
> non UBS)
> > and this is being stopped at the end of the month, so I have
> no choice
> > but to go to Xtra and lose the static IP.
> Good to hear, having come to the realisation that it's also
> Fullrate
> plans aswell this has potential to be very disruptive.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> >
> > PS The opinions expressed above do NOT represent that of my
> employer,
> > and are FYI only.
> Do you mind if I CC this to the list?

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